I do use FreeBSD for 5 years as server platform. Last time I played with Gentoo, and I completely agree with some Slashdot user that said "FreeBSD is the best Linux distribution, who cares about the kernel anyway".
but then you're not talking about linux, you're talking about some particular distribution(or even all of them).
I tried most popular of them. That's enough to make a conclusion.
The problem is that I'm not arguing about the distributions. They do suck, mostly. But linux IS kernel, even if nobody cares about it.
As for the kernel itself, I do not have nothing against it. It just works.
" find it amusing, that just because this community is named linux_sucks, that Linux zealots immediatley think we run Windows."
because most "linux sucks" people are like that. DUUUH.
and linux doesn't suck as an OS. it might be worse than other *nix OS-s but that doesn't make it *bad*.
Really? The only vocal anti-Linux person I know is an avid FreeBSD user, and is far from being "like that."
make that 2.
on the surface, most GNU/Linux distros look "pretty" and "fluffy", but when you get down to it and have to re-compile the kernel and are forced to turn on this option to make that option available, and this driver can't compile in the kernel, but this one doesn't work as a module... you kinda get a headache.
the Linux kernel is a hodge-podge of code loosely thrown together to make it work.
all the people that i know of, that care about clean code, use *BSD (primarily FreeBSD)
freebsd for desktop/general shit, netbsd for embedded, and both netbsd and dragonfly for research/study. plan9 for the future.
I don't think linux sucks per-se; debian seems to have a nice ports-esque system, gentoo for its bleeding-edge-ness, many embedded-specific distros, slackware for its unix-ness. But what drives me to BSD is that i can have it all in one installation, without distro-specific quirks and details i have to master.
"and linux doesn't suck as an OS. it might be worse than other *nix OS-s but that doesn't make it *bad*."
Linux is a kernel, and as a kernel i say its ok but its become way to big and unmanageable in the past two or three years. some major reorganization needs to occur.
Does gentoo and debian count as linux? They both use BSD type portage and they aren't as bad as those shitty binary distros that install a bunch of un-wanted crap. I would just think redhat, mandrake, suse, etc suck the most. I only like about 7 linux distro's. HDD: Gentoo (the one I use and love), Debian, Slackware, and Ubuntu. Live: Dyne:Bolic, Dead Linux, and PHLAK. But other than those 7, linux does suck. FreeBSD is annoying in my opinion, but I love OpenBSD and NetBSD. Irix and Mac OS X are cool too. M$ windows is plain out of the question, they make it stupid friendly, it's full of bug's that never get fixed, crappy out-dated software, no security, expensive, no decent UNIX like command prompt (DOS is bullshit), Billie Gates tries to be the "W3C" when he didn't even invent xhtml and css, IE has not been updated for about 5 years or so, and lastly there is always something slowing down the CPU and RAM proccess. I rather use red hat any day over windows. Well just my few cents of opinion.
Here here. I use Debian myself. And you know why? I got tangled up in fucking dependencies with suse. And to answer your question, If you're using the HURD kernel then Debian technically isn't even linux :).
2004-11-27 03:48 am (UTC)
I have no problem with GNU/Hurd, its the whole Linux monolithic kernel that sucks.
But then again, I run FreeBSD.
2009-05-05 10:17 pm (UTC)
Linux sucks for a reason
There is a very specific reason why Linux sucks, it is so far inseparable from the community of volunteers who created it. You can't just go and buy Linux at the store and think of it as your own. Using Linux means getting caught up in Linux Community. The problem with this is that these people take their computers too personally. They are highly negative and actively seek the destruction of Unix. What amazes me is that they think Mac and Apple of all things is OK. I don't like Microsoft, and I HATE Mac. I use a computer as a tool, I don't care about the "Linux is just a kernel" or the Linux vs GNU/Linux in-fighting. That is all bull. The fact that Linux people aim their guns at good companies because they want to steal their software makes me sick. Let's all take down Apple and Microsoft. Why go after companies like Sun, or Netscape and put them out of business. There is something seriously wrong with the People behind Linux and that is why Linux will suck, now and forever until they stop taking it personally and treat it like any other product that you can buy from the store.
Long live Solaris Unix.